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1	&	Brad:	&	 Alright, today is July 30th, 2016. Time is 1:30 p.m.	\\
2	&	TK:	&	 All right, uh (.) When I was young I was born and raised up in an isolated island town of Kitti, and then I moved to Kolonia for maybe (.) 10 years.	\\
3	&	Brad:	&	OK.	\\
4	&	TK:	&	 Then after that we moved, um, to this place.	\\
5	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
6	&	TK:	&	 And I was stationed in three areas, Diadi, Kolonia, and this is the last. Here I was living here for, uh, almost 20-some years.	\\
7	&	Brad:	&	 Oh, wow. OK.	\\
8	&	TK:	&	 I am teaching at Palikir Elementary School. Last December, this guy and I, we graduate- graduated from COM. He, he was graduated from Micronesian Studies, and I was graduated from pre-teacher prep (.) and I was still continue on my education, maybe this December I will graduate from my third year. And then I'll go back to teaching.	\\
9	&	Brad:	&	 Mm. OK. Great. Uh, have you traveled outside of Pohnpei before?	\\
10	&	TK:	&	 Uh, I went to Philippine on medical referral  two times.	\\
11	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
12	&	TK:	&	 I have, uh, severe [inaudible 00:02:08], so I went to Philippine, and on my second referral I came back and stopped by in Guam for one week, then I (.) returned to Pohnpei.	\\
13	&	Brad:	&	 OK, \#. So you never lived in the U.S. at all?	\\
14	&	TK:	&	 No.	\\
15	&	Brad:	&	 OK.Um. So you speak of course Pohnpeian and English. Any other languages?	\\
16	&	TK:	&	 Some languages are clearly understood, like Mwokilese and some Pingelapese. And this guy's, uh, second language, the Mortlockese is quite, not really clear. Some I unders- understood some but not most of it.	\\
17	&	Brad:	&	 OK, but you don't really speak it, like-	\\
18	&	TK:	&	 Yes, I don't speak.	\\
19	&	Brad:	&	 OK. Um, let's see.	\\
20	&	TK:	&	 Yes, uh, it is one of the pride of any people around the world, speaking their own language, but in Pohnpei, since we are adapting your culture so rapidly, we are integrating your language into our very own language, and now we are creating somewhat like a (.) Pidgin Pohnpeian English.	\\
21	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
22	&	TK:	&	 We, mostly the young youths, they speak a language that kind of mixed with Pohnpeian and English. And (.) maybe what I, what I see sadly, it's kind of sad, is that most of these, uh, youths, they really don't understand, uh, their language, and it's kind of vanishing and/or diminishing.	\\
23	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
24	&	TK:	&	 Maybe, if we keep doing this, uh, integrating of English language into our very own language, maybe we'll lost this language.	\\
25	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
26	&	TK:	&	 And it is a sad one. We'll be like Guam.	\\
27	&	Brad:	&	 Mm. Can you give me an example of this, like the pidgin, like like what it might sound like?	\\
28	&	TK:	&	OK, since we are using electricity nowadays, we, we don't say kaukehda or koakul. We say, "On-da, off-di." Which is both the English and Pohnpeian. "On" means "turn it on," and "da" means "on." So we put those (.) words together, which is "on," but we put them together as one language, "on-da."	\\
29	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
30	&	TK:	&	 And also "off." (.) di means a negative of "on." So we say "off-di," means "turn it off."	\\
31	&	Brad:	&	 Mm, m-kay.	\\
32	&	TK:	&	 Mm.	\\
33	&	Brad:	&	 M-kay.	\\
34	&	TK:	&	 And (.) some words I've heard at COM. Ekis mah move means (.) Ekis means "a little bit." “Move” means "kohwei." Instead of ”Ekis mah kohwei”, we say "Ekis move mah."	\\
35	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
36	&	TK:	&	 So we are integrating this language.	\\
37	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
38	&	TK:	&	 Yes, sometimes I use that because it's much easier.	\\
39	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
40	&	TK:	&	 And faster.	\\
41	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
42	&	TK:	&	 Before (.) no. Maybe some, but nowadays it's the younger generations are using this language.	\\
43	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK.	\\
44	&	TK:	&	 I would say it's bad because (.) if we keep integrating these, uh, English language into our very own language, then some of these words will be forgotten. And we might really lost.	\\
45	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK.	\\
46	&	TK:	&	 I could say that I'm a Pohnpeian, but instead of speaking Pohnpeian language, I'm a Pohnpeian speaking English language, which is quite different because there is a very (.) unique language of our very own. But if we keep integrating, then (.) who knows what will happen.	\\
47	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
48	&	TK:	&	 Maybe we sure- surely lost this.	\\
49	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
50	&	TK:	&	 This, uh, shifting of generation if we keep, uh, integrating, we might surely lost the old language. Yes.	\\
51	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
52	&	TK:	&	 It was, uh, Guam, it didn't take many years to change their language also.	\\
53	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
54	&	TK:	&	 Since Guam, they have their very own language, but today they are speaking English. There are Guamanians , but they are speaking English.	\\
55	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. So you think Pohnpei will be like Guam, over time?	\\
56	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
57	&	Brad:	&	 Um, what do you think the, the cause is for the people speaking more English?	\\
58	&	TK:	&	 The cause is it's, it's true the adaptation of the culture. We are, before, we used to live in extended family. Whole family living together. And since we are adapting this culture and this, uh, system of, uh, democratic government, and then we shift from extended family to nuclear family. So, today we have to work 8 hours a day to earn money. So in this shift, great shift of occupation and (.) culture, it's, that's what's really taking the language away.	\\
59	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
60	&	TK:	&	 That's what I think.	\\
61	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. I mean what, what caused that shift? Like, that culture shift.	\\
62	&	TK:	&	 Maybe we love Western style.	\\
63	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
64	&	TK:	&	 Maybe we love your culture.	\\
65	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
66	&	TK:	&	 It seems simple, it's parent and their children living together. Maybe that's why.	\\
67	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK.	\\
68	&	TK:	&	 Yes. That's, mm, one of the great impact on this language. Because, in Pohnpei, the education, uh, curriculum and framework, we have to teach English, o-, vernacular, or Pohnpeian language from first grade to third grade. And from third grade all the way to university we have to learn English. And we have limited years to learn our language. So, while we are learning English, and it's, it's, English is over-powering our very own language.	\\
69	&	Brad:	&	 Mm-hmm (affirmative).	\\
70	&	TK:	&	 We begin to learn more of the English language than our very own.	\\
71	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. So do you think (.) schools should teach Pohnpeian longer, past third grade?	\\
72	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
73	&	Brad:	&	 Uh-	\\
74	&	TK:	&	 All the way through college.	\\
75	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
76	&	TK:	&	 Since we have, uh, our COM here, we can integrate courses in (.) the four languages of the FSM. So, through elementary, high school, and college, the students can keep learning their language, so it won't fade away.	\\
77	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
78	&	TK:	&	 No, there's no-	\\
79	&	Brad:	&	 There's no what?	\\
80	&	TK:	&	 There's no curriculum.	\\
81	&	Brad:	&	 What is the Micronesian Studies Program like? Do you (.) do you use any of the vernacular languages there?	\\
82	&	TK:	&	 Mostly we are learning about the history of Micronesia.	\\
83	&	Brad:	&	 Mm, OK.	\\
84	&	TK:	&	 We don't, we don't learn our language. Or such, there's no linguistics courses.	\\
85	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
86	&	TK:	&	 None. We only learn the history, the periods of these, uh, of those, uh, foreign nations who govern the islands.	\\
87	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
88	&	TK:	&	Yes.	\\
89	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
90	&	TK:	&	 Every time you will ask if Pohnpeian people if they love Pohnpei, they wanna keep Pohnpei, they will usually say yes. But through the adaptation of this culture, we are greatly shifting to your very own culture.	\\
91	&	Brad:	&	 Right.	\\
92	&	TK:	&	 So it means that, we say we love Pohnpei, but we greatly in love with you.	\\
93	&	Brad:	&	 Mm. OK.	\\
94	&	TK:	&	 @.	\\
95	&	Brad:	&	 So it's like you say one thing, but do something else?	\\
96	&	TK:	&	 Yes, yes, we're doing another thing.	\\
97	&	Brad:	&	 OK, interesting.	\\
98	&	TK:	&	 I (.) I don't understand. But I would say the U.S. Embassy. Because before, uh, there's a program at COM, the Bilingual Education under Linguistic Program. It was, uh, funded by the U.S. government to (.) help the students of Pohnpei learn their language properly. And then (.) after a few years, the fund that the U.S. government sent was depleted, and COM, FSM, and Pohnpei state government, they could not afford the money to keep the program running, so it's (.) kind of collapsed.	\\
99	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
100	&	TK:	&	 And (.) and it's back to where we start from. Learning English always.	\\
101	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. OK.	\\
102	&	TK:	&	 During my lecture times, I use both English and Pohnpeian.	\\
103	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
104	&	TK:	&	 All our activities, our reading, our language arts, maths, science, social studies, are all in English language. So I have to teach those lessons all in (.) Pohnpeian English.	\\
105	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
106	&	TK:	&	 So I will give them the Pohnpei-English language, and then I will try to translate and explain it in Pohnpeian. But I keep ur- urging our Pohnpei state specialist to change our class lessons to Pohnpeian language, but I don't know what happened.	\\
107	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
108	&	TK:	&	 All our tests, assessments, and uh (.) summative and formative assessments are all in English language. So (.) I think we are teaching the students the English language rather than the Pohnpeian language.	\\
109	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. OK.	\\
110	&	TK:	&	 What's that?	\\
111	&	Brad:	&	 W- when did you start learning English as a kid?	\\
112	&	TK:	&	 Oh, I myself?	\\
113	&	Brad:	&	 Yeah.	\\
114	&	TK:	&	 I started learning English (.) in school.	\\
115	&	Brad:	&	 Which grade?	\\
116	&	TK:	&	 First grade.	\\
117	&	Brad:	&	 First grade.	\\
118	&	TK:	&	 Mm-hmm (affirmative), I never had \#.	\\
119	&	Brad:	&	 Oh, OK. Uh, what, what kind of, what school did you go to?	\\
120	&	TK:	&	 I went to Ohmine Elementary School.	\\
121	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
122	&	TK:	&	 Until fourth grade. Then I moved down to Palikir Elementary School.	\\
123	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. And did you have, uh, Pohnpeian teachers, or mehn wai, or (.) other people?	\\
124	&	TK:	&	 In (.) elementary, before, there's a Peace Corps volunteer (.) uh, I forgot her name. Larry? And then in high school, most of them are Pohnpeians. And I have only one mehn wai teacher, Mr. Massy. He's teaching book-keeping and accounting.	\\
125	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK.	\\
126	&	TK:	&	 But still, only, when I, when I reached college, then that's the day when I start socializing with the mehn wai teachers.	\\
127	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK. Where did you go to high school?	\\
128	&	TK:	&	PICS High School.	\\
129	&	Brad:	&	PICS, OK. Great.	\\
130	&	TK:	&	 That's a very difficult question for me. Uh, until now I don't know.	\\
131	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
132	&	TK:	&	 Because both English and Pohnpeian I, I still have struggle with these two languages.	\\
133	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
134	&	TK:	&	 Sometimes I don't understand some of the words that's being spoken to me.	\\
135	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
136	&	TK:	&	 So maybe learning these two languages better than any other language, till now.	\\
137	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
138	&	TK:	&	 Some Pohnpeian language because, Pohnpeian language, we have three levels of speaking, which is, uh, the first one is commonly used by us, and the second one is \# pato, the second level, and third level is when we speak to the Nahnmwarkis or the high titled people. It's kind- it's different. And this I, uh, level of speaking. Most of them I don't understand.	\\
139	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. So you don't use it yourself very often, and-	\\
140	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
141	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
142	&	TK:	&	 Only when I was in seventh grade and I prayed (.) we used to have a college program, also funded from the U.S. government, and that (.) branch also (.) out of funding and they didn't run it anymore.	\\
143	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK.	\\
144	&	TK:	&	 So (.) most of the Pohnpeians, they are losing their very own levels of language. And there's ano- there's another, two ways of speaking Pohnpeian language. It's much more like a, a code. [side conversation] There, there were two languages, Pohnpei s- spoken by the Pohnpeians, it's kind of, it is s- sylla- syllabalized from the base word. Like, "kohla" means "go." Instead of saying "kohla," they would say "korko," means "go" So "kohla" means "korko" means (.) Mmm. It's much more like a code.	\\
145	&	Brad:	&	 Ah, OK. When would you use this, or who would use this?	\\
146	&	TK:	&	 I never use that, but some of these people they are using-	\\
147	&	Brad:	&	 Like, young people, or just anyone?	\\
148	&	TK:	&	 Some older people, they are very master in it.	\\
149	&	Brad:	&	 Ah, and why would, why would they use that as opposed to the other ways?	\\
150	&	TK:	&	 To (.) keep a secret from the others.	\\
151	&	Brad:	&	 Ah, OK.	\\
152	&	TK:	&	 Because if I wanna speak to you, and I, I don't want these people to understand what I'm telling you or saying to you, so I will use that word.	\\
153	&	Brad:	&	 Ah, OK. So you use it with, like, people that you're close with but also know it, like as a secret.	\\
154	&	TK:	&	 Mm-hmm (affirmative)	\\
155	&	Brad:	&	 Ah, OK. OK, interesting.	\\
156	&	TK:	&	 There were two of (.) this, uh, way of speaking.	\\
157	&	Brad:	&	 Do (.) so it's like a, like an, older people know it better?	\\
158	&	TK:	&	 Some of these older people, they are very fluent with it.	\\
159	&	Brad:	&	 OK, but younger people (.) do they use it much?	\\
160	&	TK:	&	 No. Nowadays, no.	\\
161	&	Brad:	&	 OK, so it's kind of a dying out-	\\
162	&	TK:	&	 Only, only nowadays the, some of, some of them are practicing but (.) they're not really good at the-	\\
163	&	Brad:	&	 OK. What, what's that, does it have a name?	\\
164	&	TK:	&	 No.	\\
165	&	Brad:	&	 It's got, OK. OK.	\\
166	&	TK:	&	 I have dozen of them! One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, [crosstalk 00:21:15] eleven, twelve @.	\\
167	&	Brad:	&	 That's right, you said that. That's right. Um, how (.) uh, what languages do you want your kids to speak?	\\
168	&	TK:	&	 Both Pohnpeian and English.	\\
169	&	Brad:	&	 OK. Um, why English?	\\
170	&	TK:	&	 Because (.) every day learning is English.	\\
171	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
172	&	TK:	&	 In the schools.	\\
173	&	Brad:	&	 M-kay. Uh, and why Pohnpeian?	\\
174	&	TK:	&	 Because they are Pohnpeian. They have to know their language perfectly and then English so they can learn and further their education.	\\
175	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. Um, do you think Pohnpeians who can't speak Pohnpeian are still Pohnpeians? Or is that, are they somehow less Pohnpeian?	\\
176	&	TK:	&	 They are still Pohnpeian.	\\
177	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
178	&	TK:	&	 You cannot deny them that they are Pohnpeian, but the only thing is they are lacking their own language.	\\
179	&	Brad:	&	 Mm. Um (.) do, do you think it's important for Pohnpei to still keep Pohnpeian?	\\
180	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
181	&	Brad:	&	 Why?	\\
182	&	TK:	&	 It is a unique culture from the other, other cultures around the world. And this language is (.) what also identifies and shows that we are all from this island, Pohnpei.	\\
183	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
184	&	TK:	&	 So I (.) I think it's one of the pride of the island.	\\
185	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
186	&	TK:	&	 The language.	\\
187	&	Brad:	&	 So if (.) Pohnpei were to lose the language, it would lose part of (.)	\\
188	&	TK:	&	 Part of the culture.	\\
189	&	Brad:	&	 Part of the culture. 'Cause (.) the two are connected?	\\
190	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
191	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. Um, what do you think, how (.) so you kind of talked about what the different levels of Pohnpeian, um, can (.) so part of that is with, is showing respect through the language, right?	\\
192	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
193	&	Brad:	&	 Is it possible to show respect here without using Pohnpeian, but with English or some other language, or is something lost?	\\
194	&	TK:	&	 Yes, we can (.) ask, um (.) inform those higher ranking people to forgive them 'cause we don't understand how to speak the higher level. So they will permit us to speak the lower level.	\\
195	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
196	&	TK:	&	 And these nahnmwarkis nowadays, they are, they are good.	\\
197	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
198	&	TK:	&	 Because they are allowing people to use the common language.	\\
199	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
200	&	TK:	&	 In order to communicate clearly.	\\
201	&	Brad:	&	 Do all nahnmwarkis do that, or only some? All- allow people to speak the common language?	\\
202	&	TK:	&	 Nowadays, mostly, yes, all of them.	\\
203	&	Brad:	&	 OK. Mmm. Um, what kind of people do you think, like, still know the, the high language? Like the respectful?	\\
204	&	TK:	&	 Nowadays, it's the youths, the young generation, they, they really lost this, uh, speaking the higher level.	\\
205	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
206	&	TK:	&	 Because I myself, I am not teaching them because I don't know.	\\
207	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
208	&	TK:	&	 Both of them. And they didn't even learn in elementary school. But that's why, rarely you see that.	\\
209	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
210	&	TK:	&	 But some people are really good in speaking that language.	\\
211	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
212	&	TK:	&	 The higher level.	\\
213	&	Brad:	&	 So some people still know, know it.	\\
214	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
215	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
216	&	TK:	&	 Mostly the older people, they are really understand.	\\
217	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. Mmm. If you had the opportunity to learn, would you want to?	\\
218	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
219	&	Brad:	&	 You s- still think it's useful to know and-	\\
220	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
221	&	Brad:	&	 OK. Mmm.	\\
222	&	TK:	&	 In everyday life? Well, when I'm teaching, when I'm attending college.	\\
223	&	Brad:	&	 Mm-hmm (affirmative).	\\
224	&	TK:	&	 And when I'm speaking to those people who can't speak (.) Pohnpeian. And mostly you will come and get \# language courses.	\\
225	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, right. Um, so wait, do you, you speak English with other Micronesians?	\\
226	&	TK:	&	 Yes, I speak English with Kosraeans, Chuukese, Yapese.	\\
227	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
228	&	TK:	&	 Mostly those people who really don't understand the Pohnpeian language.	\\
229	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
230	&	TK:	&	 And I don't understand their language.	\\
231	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
232	&	TK:	&	 We use to communicate with English.	\\
233	&	Brad:	&	 OK. Mmm.	\\
234	&	TK:	&	 Maybe the language, yes (.) It's up to them. But how to (.) socialize and interact with the Pohnpeians through the Pohnpeian culture, that's what they really need.	\\
235	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, and you think that's true also for mehn wai, they should learn Pohnpeian? If they live here?	\\
236	&	TK:	&	 No, I don't.	\\
237	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
238	&	TK:	&	 It's up to them if they wanna learn.	\\
239	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
240	&	TK:	&	 But, it doesn't matter if they (.) don't learn it or not.	\\
241	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
242	&	TK:	&	 Or, I don't know, it's up to that person.	\\
243	&	Brad:	&	 OK. Um (.) so when you, where do you get information, get news, like what are your sources for, for that?	\\
244	&	TK:	&	 English (.) Or-	\\
245	&	Brad:	&	 Just an- anywhere on the island, like, where do you get any kind of news information?	\\
246	&	TK:	&	 OK. OK, from people, from the internet.	\\
247	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
248	&	TK:	&	 And mostly today, Facebook, eh?	\\
249	&	Brad:	&	 Ah, OK.	\\
250	&	TK:	&	 Yes @.	\\
251	&	Brad:	&	 So when you use, uh, Facebook, what, what languages do you use?	\\
252	&	TK:	&	 I use (.) Pohnpei and English.	\\
253	&	Brad:	&	 OK. When would you use English on Facebook?	\\
254	&	TK:	&	 When I'm talking to (.) my friends, sometimes I speak in both Pohnpei and sometimes I speak English.	\\
255	&	Brad:	&	 OK. Um, are any of these friends Pohnpeian that you would use English with?	\\
256	&	TK:	&	 No. Some of my friends, they don't speak, uh, Pohnpeian language, so I have to use English.	\\
257	&	Brad:	&	 OK. OK. Um, is there ever a situation when you would use English with someone from Pohnpei, and that, and that, who also speaks Pohnpeian?	\\
258	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
259	&	Brad:	&	 When would that situation be?	\\
260	&	TK:	&	 When I was, uh, using this Pohnpeian, and then that, that Pohnpeian word is longer than the English word, I use the English word rather than the Pohnpeian.	\\
261	&	Brad:	&	 Mm. Can you give me an example, do you know of any-?	\\
262	&	TK:	&	 Mm (.) For example, this, uh, this word, uh, mwenge, there are many letters in it, but in your language it is only three letters. So sometimes, that's what I do. Pop out the Pohnpeian word, and use the English because it's shorter.	\\
263	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK (.) So, can you use that in a sentence?	\\
264	&	TK:	&	 Using that, this word in, in a sentence?	\\
265	&	Brad:	&	 Yeah.	\\
266	&	TK:	&	 Yes. Like (.) but this is, this, this is not the word that I usually use.	\\
267	&	Brad:	&	 Mm.	\\
268	&	TK:	&	 But when I come across a word that is longer in the Pohnpeian, I use the English.	\\
269	&	Brad:	&	 Oh, OK.	\\
270	&	TK:	&	 But this word eat is come and eat.	\\
271	&	Brad:	&	 OK.	\\
272	&	TK:	&	 Means, because Pohnpeian language, kohdo mwenge is kind of longer than come and eat.	\\
273	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK. Thanks.	\\
274	&	TK:	&	kohdo mwenge \#, something like that.	\\
275	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. Oh, I f- also forgot to ask, um, if you don't mind. How old are you?	\\
276	&	TK:	&	 I'm 45 years old.	\\
277	&	Brad:	&	 Great. Thank you. Great.	\\
278	&	TK:	&	 As for me, was uh (.) Yes, I was lucky to learn the English language also, because this is what I learned in school, and all my instructions and all my activities are based on English, so I was happy that I know more about English language so I can do my studies more clearly.	\\
279	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm, OK.	\\
280	&	TK:	&	 I would gladly describe in very simple, basic way so they can clearly understand how important it is.	\\
281	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. Um, and how would you, or like wh- what, uh, words would you use to describe English to s- someone here, you know, a Pohnpeian who doesn't know anything about English? How would you des- describe the English language?	\\
282	&	TK:	&	 It'll be also the same way as I explained the Pohnpeian language.	\\
283	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm.	\\
284	&	TK:	&	 Because English within the FSM is our second language and in every (.) offices we have to communicate using English, so it's kind of both.	\\
285	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. Do you think, since English is the second language of the country, right, um, do you think it would be better if, instead of English being the second language, maybe Pohnpeian were the official language of all of the FSM, or Chuukese or Kosraean or some other Micronesian language instead? Do you think that would be better than English?	\\
286	&	TK:	&	 The Pohnpei State government and the National government, the optional language is English.	\\
287	&	Brad:	&	 Yeah.	\\
288	&	TK:	&	 So I would say yes.	\\
289	&	Brad:	&	 So you would say it, it would be better if it were English? Or-	\\
290	&	TK:	&	 Yeah.	\\
291	&	Brad:	&	 Than changing it to something else?	\\
292	&	TK:	&	 Mm-hmm (affirmative). English is the best.	\\
293	&	Brad:	&	 Why is that? O- why is that better than if, if Pohnpei were the official language of the national government?	\\
294	&	TK:	&	 Because (.) within the FSM, there are four states within the FSM, so each of those, uh, four states learning the Pohnpeian language is, maybe it's good, but they cannot use Pohnpeian language in the other foreign countries. But using and adapting this, uh, English language, you can use everywhere around.	\\
295	&	Brad:	&	 Mmm. So it's more useful to learn English-	\\
296	&	TK:	&	 Yes.	\\
297	&	Brad:	&	 You can use it other places.	\\
298	&	TK:	&	 Since English is much more like a universal language today.	\\
299	&	Brad:	&	 Oh, OK. OK, great. Well, thank you for taking this time out and, and sitting here, and asking my questions and stuff-	\\
300	&	TK:	&	 Mmm, OK. And thank you, kalahngan. I, maybe I didn't really fulfill what you really need to know, but if further questions, you can come back, so we can talk about it over.	\\
301	&	Brad:	&	 Yeah.	\\
302	&	TK:	&	 Thank you very much	\\
303	&	Brad:	&	 Yeah.	\\
304	&	TK:	&	Kalahngan en komwi \#Koaron	\\
305	&	Brad:	&	 Can, can I ask one last thing? How, how can I spell your name properly? It's like \#.	\\
306	&	TK:	&	 I used to have a very long name.	\\
307	&	Speaker 3	&	 How long, four feet?	\\
308	&	TK:	&	 Three yards @.	\\
309	&	Speaker 3	&	 @.	\\
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